"It came down on the front bottom, and skidded down the highway. Just took my brand new Pack out for maiden voyage. It's just like a mini-van this canoe...it can be whatever you want it to be that day. I have had three other solo canoes and like this one the best for tracking, stability and turning. On lakes the pack seems sluggish until I just really get my paddle strikes going. I was lucky to find a tan one. It is amazing what you can pack in a canoe over a kayak. To shorten the saga of the search for a longer kayak paddle -- Just go to the Bending Branches web site, call the the sales department, ask how much it costs (minimal given the net results) for a special order 270cm Slice kayak paddle and then go to your local paddling store with the information to have them place an order. As with any canoe paddled from the middle with a single blade the proper strokes need to be learned. A canoe should flex and glide through the water, not slam into it like the harder fiberglass, or aluminum boats. We loved our 16 and 18’ Old Towns, but could no longer easily lift their 60 to 75#s. and find this canoe to be very unstable. Of course the big plus is the low weight. I've been looking for a smaller canoe for awhile now. Not bad for a boat like this IMHO. I wanted a solo canoe so that I could easily load it on my small sedan. I've only had it out 5 times now for a couple of hours at a time, ...and only in fairly calm water, but I love it. I've done over 40 day trips in it on rivers and maybe only 3 on lakes and really have to say I've more than got my money's use of it. I much prefer my larger 42 or 58 lb. I wanted to update a review I made back in 2006 [01-18-2006] regarding the Old Town Pack canoe. Just stretching my legs out in front of me alleviates most of the tippy feeling. Still had a great time, didn't swamp. I use the seat in what I think is the factory position, which is with 1.5" drop-downs from the gunnel. We have been building adventure since 1898. So modification #2 was for me to move the seat forward. My first attempt to enter it found me sitting in the water beside my swamped canoe, but then again I am used to rafts. I've never modified it. The Pack open canoe by manufactured by Old Town I have only had the Pack open canoe for a couple of months so this review may need updated but here are my thoughts so far. I like this canoe a lot. The original 1.5" drop-downs were cracking, so I made some from a 3/4" diameter birch dowel. Loading up a backpack, and fishing gear, the Pack was just the right size and weight to carry through those long wooded portages balanced on my backpack frame. But I can tell you the guy I sold it to was all smiles as he paddled up river. I also have a 17' Maine Guide (1943) and have been canoeing seriously for more than 35 years. Being a smaller woman 5'4", 130lbs. PROS: Very stable out of the box. In the spring I run a few class 2&3 rivers and manage to pry my cheeks apart after the day is over and the pack is doing fine. PLEASE CONTACT CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-343-1555 FOR ASSISTANCE. This is a wonderful solo expedition canoe as it is light (about 35 lbs.) When we reached the put-in, the Pack was nowhere to be seen. Owen my Pack for about 10 years will never sell or trade. If more weight is wanted forward, use the front thwart and paddle facing aft. I have brought my son and daughter (one at a time) along no problem and the dog as well. I love kayaking and had never really canoed before this boat but the ability to include my big dogs with me was the main reason I went with the canoe. The Pack is a super lightweight solo canoe that can be carried with one arm. Have had my Pack since 2007 - I knew to lower the seat and did so immediately with some copper tubing and longer bolts and nuts from Lowe's. The size and weight makes transporting/portaging easy. Works like a charm for me. I would rather kneel in the canoe but the standard seat placement made that difficult, as it wasn't easy to jam my feet under the seat so lowering the seat that amount seems to work well for me. The Pack has been designed for flat water touring and is also perfect for exploring the local rivers, estuaries and canals. It easily carried my camping, fishing, and photography gear. My canoe has seen many years of loving use and will certainly see many more before I replace her. I picked this boat up for my wife from a fellow that had too many canoes. In addition to my nearly 200 pound 5'10" frame, my indomitable Pack also carried 8 5 liter water cans, 2 coolers, 2 duffel bags and other assorted gear. It makes for a quiet and secure ride. I have not taken this canoe camping, but it does just fine with enough gear for fishing and day trips. I bought a Pack after reading the reviews here. I love this little boat! Yes, it was both light-weight and stable (it would have to be with a flat bottom and 34 inch width) but I could not keep with the rest of my group. The width was just a little to much for a short guy to clear with either a single or a kayak paddle (255 cm). When solo I take a bag of decoys and dog (90lbs) and just move along with no problem. I use the pack for floating rivers and ponds for duck/goose hunting. Guess what? Excellent canoe. I notice a few of the reviewers concerns about the boat not being stiff enough, as an old wood and canvas canoe owner and restorer, all I can say is that's the way a canoe should feel. I take mine with friends who kayak all the time and I can keep up and still get a tan. It's stable even with my 68lb. After one dumping in a cold lake trying to stand up, I lowered the seats with some wood spacers from Old Town and the stability was improved greatly. It does alot better when loaded, but I still need a correction before and after the power stroke. My first canoe was a Mad River St. Croix which was a 2 person model that weighed over 70 lbs. I bought this one because it was lite enough for me to lift onto the top of my car. I never sit on the seat - an invitation for a swim. I plan to lower the seat 2" later this spring. (pool noodle or some kind of foam is very nice to have for this). Royalex, traditionally used in downriver whitewater and tripping canoes, can take repeated rock hits and still bounce back. We did hit weather after a few days so I spent those days kneeling to keep my center low. I took the seat out and use a plastic fishermans seat purchased at Walmart on the floor of the canoe and a double bladed high quality paddle - The same set up works well in the 119 but better in the pack. I've tried kneeling and sitting on the seat. I did lower the seat and got a sit backer chair though. Also literaly nudged a fifteen pounder which I thought was just a log until he moved. Early this year I added the BB 260cm double bladed canoe paddle to my kit. I can vary my leg position, sometimes sitting cross legged and at other times with legs out stretched. While a great product,the St. Croix was just to much weight to handle by myself. Car topping is easy with his boat. Too cramped, no gear or rod holders and lots of lower back pain. The hull is strong but if you hit a rock head on, it will crush the royalex. Many canoes and kayaks have passed thru life over the decades... the OT Pack will be with me to the end of my time. This boat is sweet! I am very dissatisfied with its performance and stability....going to sell it asap. Despite the load range recommendations, I would never exceed 350 pounds in this canoe. This is the most fun of all my four boats. I carry mine one handed and haul my gear with the other. I recommend it to most people. Good boat. Whether carried bow, or stern first, the seat or thwart obstruct vision and can bang against ones head and face. At 12', it's a little small to fit a standard commercial canoe trailer. But the Pack does perfectly what it was designed to do, be a solo, easily transported and paddled canoe at a great price. The canoe is so short that the width in the middle makes it almost diamond shape, instead of the sleeker shape of a longer vessel. Right? It is a lightweight solo canoe for a leisurely paddle. Last week I took it from the "headwater" of the Willamette to Eugene, about 15 miles, with much more current and white water. Old Town Molded Canoe Seat with Backrest, Bow and Stern kit If you like a low maintenance canoe then replacing your existing seats with a blow-molded polyethylene seat is the way to go. Made by a company with more than a century of expertise, the 13 ft. Old Town Next canoe incorporates both canoe and kayak characteristics to deliver a fun, easy and natural solo paddling experience. Easy to maneuver. “It’s got a flat-bottom hull and almost no rocker, so it’s super-stable, but it isn’t going anywhere fast,” another of our testers said. This gave much better results and I highly recommend doing this. This video is the first time that I take it out for a paddle. I am 6' tall and 200 lbs. The Pack open canoe by manufactured by Old Town I have only had the Pack open canoe for a couple of months so this review may need updated but here are my thoughts so far. My rotor cuff repair in the summer of 2011 put the kibosh on a third trip, and the drought and heat wave saw to it there'd be no expedition in 2012. It's not really even faded much, despite the annual saltwater trips. Good stability while paddling on stock height web seat. Actually surprised by stability compared to my 25 year old Katahdin 12 by Old Town which is a barge with 40" beam. Other reviewers mentioned the issue with portaging. I scored a nice used one lately and added her to my fleet (5 other Old Town canoes - each different). The Pack also oil canned much more than previous larger Old Towns; actually kind of scary how flimsy the bottom was. It is a great canoe to fish out of, and get you in and out of thin water, and tight spots. In tandem paddling (300#) we had way too little freeboard. I bought the Old Town skirt and flotation bags and installed the snaps and tie-downs. I have had a Discovery 119 which I loved but eventually sold to get a kayak. We both had to sit on float pads on the floor of the canoe with my feet into the stern and he kept his back into the bow and feet under a pack balanced on the crossbeam but we just managed to fit ourselves and gear with the boat paddles backwards. Once you get used to getting in and out of it and determine where to put your feet, it's just like any larger canoe. So we bought Spring Creek ethafoam floats. My Malecite, though a great canoe, is still hanging from the rafters. My wife got it for me for father's day at an outrageously cheap price and I couldn't be happier with the boat. ), and I have also had the canoe out on large lakes in more wind than I like (25-30 mph), and was surprised how stable it handled. Great little canoe. Really happy with it so far. I have not severely tested the secondary stability of the boat, but I have felt that this boat is very stable with the factory seat height. I am a canoe paddle kneeler and brace against the thwart. FIBERGLASS OLD TOWN PACK CANOE. Shop similar products. I am 66 years old, 6'1" and weigh 175 lb. The longer double blade helps to keep your ride dry and much faster. When properly packed I still have room to rotate myself around, slide my legs under the thwart and then sort of up and around the aft dryduffle permitting me to laydown in the canoe. Due to my bad knees, I am a sitter, and unfortunately there is no seat adjustment or "sitter" model that you can buy to fix this. I'm love this canoe. The seat requires no maintenance and will serve you comfortably for many, many years. Go for it! I use those clip-on foam bricks and it's night and day compared to the old 80 lb. I can now lock my feet in and it has firmed my paddle stroke up nicely. And I do mean rock solid stability. So I love Old Town, just not the Pack 12. Its best use is for fishing, paddling streams and small ponds/lakes. The Indian or North Woods Stroke allows one to paddle infinitely on one side or the other and works just fine for the Pack. I sit and knee and had plans to lower the seat but now don't think it is needed. Snap a dry bag to the seat and put your dogs in the middle/front. On another trip had a small 8-9 lb tarpon jump right into the canoe and had to wait for it to tire before I could throw him back. 1996 Old Town Pack Canoe 12ft (Royalex) is in great used condition. We found the Pack to be horribly tippy, even sitting on a lowered seat and kneeling. Buy it, but don't expect to master it immediately. Specs Length 12'0" Width 32", Capacity 180kg, Weight 15kg. That position and the short, 12 ft. length are insurance against high winds, which are pretty standard in the Oregon Cascades. Still the first boat I select when heading out. Of course longer canoes are faster, it's physics. Old Town Pack. It also handles well because it's only 12' long. I stumbled across this canoe at a local dealer, noticed how light it was and thought I better come here and check the reviews. This is my 2nd year with my Pack. Upgraded seat, foot pads and paddleHARD TO FIND - Old Town Pack Canoe Rare "Angler" ModelThe Old Town Pack Canoe is made of extremely durable and tough Royalex ®which is why the canoe weights only 33 pounds.The Pack Canoe is quieter than aluminum, tougher than fiber, and ... USED Old Town Pack Canoe - $500 (Brunswick, GA) It dents and scuffs but hasn't gotten gouged in my first few attempts. I fashioned a kayak paddle by joining 2 spare raft oars with a coupler, and was very impressed with the improved speed and tracking. I own 2 other tandem canoes, and have used many different brands of tandem and solo canoes for guiding trips and for recreational use so I feel qualified to give a fair assessment of the Pack canoe. While it does not track the best due to its short length, it's great for calm lakes or downriver floats. I didn’t lower the seat, as many have done here, but did replace it and move it forward to about 3” behind center. Will try lowering the seat. I wanted a small canoe that will carry me and enough stuff to see me thru several days. It's a great little canoe as long as you don't push it with a single blade. Overall the Pack is a first rate boat. All of my paddling has been on a local river. I prefer the Pack canoe to a Hornbeck boat on all streams and smaller bodies of water, especially while canoe tripping. Men’s Journal has affiliate partnerships so we may receive compensation for some links to products and services. No complaints at all, and I wish there was an 11 I could give it. Have used it on small ponds to huge lakes, initially for paddling & fishing, and most recently for paddling my 2 dogs (90 lbs total + my 150 lbs) around exploring the lake. It is not my first canoe but it has been my favorite. The Royalex hull scratches easily, but is almost bulletproof (the scars make it look better to me!). Took me only a few minutes to get my balance right, and before long I was on my merry way. 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